With God On Our Side -Bewick Cory
We, as a Nation, should thank our lucky stars to have been chosen by the Almighty GOD himself to fulfill his prophecies and to carry out His handiwork upon this earth. I am in awe of the privilege which He has bestowed upon this Nation to reap His vengeance for Him upon His enemies and for giving us the leadership of George W. Bush, to whom He personally counsels and guides through these difficult times. How the Lord works His wonders! He picks a plain, moronic, imbecile and bestows upon him powers of Biblical proportions. The Lord gave the President an Angel in the guise of Karl Rove, to guide and watch over him, and to direct him in his conquest of the powers of evil, wherever they may hide and fester, into every tuck and corner of this world…into every desert where black gold flows beneath the sand. The Lord leads these great men into the “Last Days,” moving ever closer towards the nuclear holocaust which we as Americans have so desperately yearned. Oh, the day! When we are raptured from our sneakers and lifted to the Lord on high! God Himself has given this Nation a sign…the new Lamb of Judea…and that sign is George W. Bush. God gave unto him the gift of the Presidency by divine intervention via the Diebold voting machine and the pure magic of the Arc Angel Rove. The Nation has spoken! A Nation marches as one into Armageddon. An idiot leads us to our doom, and we shout…yay! We have God on our side!
Bewick Cory
Tennessee
January 30th, 2005 at 7:41 am
Say………….are you the guy I always see out on the street corner………..the one wearing the sandwich sign?
January 30th, 2005 at 9:35 am
Doc, I find myself, *gasp* in agreement with you. If, you are as I think, being sarcastic. People with those views, I grant you, are extremists. Thankfully, there aren’t as many of those out there as a liberal extremist may think.
Google David J. Smith - he’s the king of these guys.
January 30th, 2005 at 9:45 am
And just for the record, I use the word “agree” very, very, very loosely.
January 30th, 2005 at 8:52 pm
A must read:
http://www.bushpresident2004.com/pnac.htm
January 30th, 2005 at 11:46 pm
Bewick,
Why do you want Saddam Hussein in power?
January 31st, 2005 at 8:20 am
A small number of Extremist do believe that God ordained President Bush. However, a large number of people did vote for Bush because he believes in a moral standard.
January 31st, 2005 at 11:39 am
Just For The Record: What I write are my OPINIONS, I am not writing NEWS STORIES. A writer of “opinion” not a “journalist”. The reader can agree with me, or fume about my comments. I will not try and “justify” my opinions. Let President Bush, who has a far greater effect on our society, justify HIS comments and actions. Ask HIM to give US the FACTS. Some who come to mind here should use their inquisitive natures to ask el Presidente what the FACTS are. If my writing offends some, well, that’s how it goes. I am passionate about what I write about, I will not apologize for that. I am the ying, the yang, the dichotomy - the Right the Left, the wrong the right. All I hope for is that I bring about a reaction, a feeling, a thought, one way or the other. If I have done that, my mission is complete. P.S. To the question, “Do I want Saddam in power?” Not particularly, but I don’t believe that he was threat to the United States. That is Iraqs business. Perhaps having their country bombed flat, and having over 100,000 Iraqis killed, and opening up a 24/7 terrorist recruitment center where once there was not one, is better. Perhaps having a foreign military presence in their country extending into the far ranging future, and the foreign access to their resources is better. Perhaps having their country serve as a launching pad for further U.S. Mid East efforts is appealing to them. I don’t know. I often wonder how WE would react to a Muslim military presence in our country. Muslim soldiers owning OUR streets, Muslim house to house searches in OUR homes. Muslims telling US that OUR religion is wrong. What if there was a Muslim Nation who had our military strength and decided to take it upon themselves to free us from an Administration which THEY deemed unacceptable? I certainly don’t like our Adminstration and feel that they are leading us down the road to Neo-Fascism, BUT, that is something for we who believe this to handle ourselves. . .I would NEVER welcome a foreign (Muslim) military invasion of our country. And like most of my fellow countrymen, we would become what? “Insurgents” “Terrorists” for fighting them?
Just my opinion - Bewick Cory - Tennessee
January 31st, 2005 at 11:49 am
Here is another excellent read concerning Iraqi women and the recent voting:
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/print.php?sid=19706
January 31st, 2005 at 12:04 pm
Let me explain my quote:
After reading it, I realized I just sort of through it up there without any context. I don’t want anyone to think I was just throwing around comments trying to change the subject
Basically, my comment was in reply to the PNAC thing Doc keeps talking about. I went and checkout out the website, and one of the arguments why PNAC is evil is that it
I personally don’t see how this is a bad thing. Getting dictators like Saddam and Kim Jung Il out of power is a good thing! Now, that might not always call for American military force, but we need to at least have the resources do use force if necessary. We also need to have the backbone to follow through on our threats. The UN told Saddam to give us full access to his weapons facilities or we would use force. He continued to play games. At this point, we had to follow through on our word, or the North Koreas and Irans and these other countries out there would continue to play around with us also.
Anyway, so when I make the question about Saddam Hussein, it is because all of the arguments about why the current administration is evil have to deal with the fact that we are in Iraq “illegally.� This is an easy accusation to make in hindsight, but I personally don’t see how Bush, given the information he was given (‘Slam Dunk’), knowing the history of the guy in charge of Iraq, and having the responsibility of protecting the American people as his job description, I don’t see what other choice he would have had.
Also, the quote WAS in response to an argument he raised, even if he raised a separate argument within and argument . . . .
January 31st, 2005 at 12:19 pm
I will not try and “justify” my opinions. - Bewick Cory
Come on Bewick, you can not be serious. What is the point of sharing your opinions if you are not doing so to convince others to your point of view? Do you just want to hear yourself speak? Get things off your chest?
I have opinions about somethings that I cannot “justify” or back with logic, but I keep them to myself until I have had time to study and research them more. IF and when that opinion becomes a value that I hold, I share that opinion in a manner that I fell will do the most good to advancing that value. Even then I do not go about running my mouth just to be heard. It serves no useful purpose to ANYONE.
When you just spew comments at whatever your emotions tell you, you look like a fool!
I am sure you have heard the proverb, it is better to remain silent and let people think you are wise than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
If all you have is a strong emotional opinion that you are not prepared to defend with facts and hard logic… or maybe even examples of personal experience…then perhaps you should consider the wisdom in staying quiet.
January 31st, 2005 at 12:35 pm
I agree, Saddam was not a true threat to the United States. He was a threat to his own people. The people hated Saddam, but they had no way of getting rid of him. The people of Iraq didnt not have the processes we enjoy to get rid of administrations that they dont like.
Berwick, I can “somewhat” see your point about having a Foreign Nation coming over here. However, it is flawed a little. We are not telling these people to give up their religion. We are not trying to convert Muslim into Christians. Also, how US citizens would fight back would be different. The terrorists attach their own people and other innocent people. We as Americans, would fight the people responsible.
I can understand people who disagree with the BUsh Administration a little, I cannont understand calling it Neo-Facisim.
January 31st, 2005 at 1:03 pm
Say………….are you the guy I always see out on the street corner………..the one wearing the sandwich sign?
You mean the guy who has to be your conscience?
January 31st, 2005 at 1:16 pm
Ryanh in message #10 States:
“I have opinions about somethings that I cannot “justify” or back with logic, but I keep them to myself until I have had time to study and research them more. IF and when that opinion becomes a value that I hold, I share that opinion in a manner that I fell will do the most good to advancing that value. Even then I do not go about running my mouth just to be heard. It serves no useful purpose to ANYONE.”
“When you just spew comments at whatever your emotions tell you, you look like a fool!”
BEWICK Replies:
My OPINIONS are formed by research and study. . .then they become VALUES. Then I write about them. As far as looking like a “fool” well that’s your OPINION too. And you shouldn’t lower yourself with childish remarks. EMOTION should be fueled by knowledge and how one perceives that knowledge. For all of us that is a different experience. Without emotion what is writing other than the cold stating of facts? My “foolish” writings obviously stir you to some sort of thought. Job done.
Bewick Cory
Tennessee
January 31st, 2005 at 2:23 pm
I return to my argument that Adolf Hitler wasn’t necessarily a threat to the United States, yet we all agree that taking him out was the right thing.
I’m sure Hitler would have loved for us to pursue a diplomatic approach – much like many would have liked for us to do with Saddam. In fact, that’s exactly what he did for Czechoslovakia, Poland, Russia . . . those nations apparently didn’t see him as a threat to them, either.
January 31st, 2005 at 2:45 pm
6. Joey on Monday 31 January, 08:20:01 AM (#1706)
Rank: Major
A small number of Extremist do believe that God ordained President Bush. However, a large number of people did vote for Bush because he believes in a moral standard.
Bewick Replies:
A small number!!!?? How about most all Fundamentalists! Can you count millions? How about George Bush, himself? Here, let him tell you: “God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them. And then He (God) instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now i am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East.”
George has on numerous occasions expressed the “fact” that he feels that God picked him for this job. . .to lead America.
What are “W’s” “moral standards”? The manipulation of lies and misdirections? Allowing the terrorist attack of 9/11 to happen and 2,700 lives to be taken so that he and PNAC would realize their “Pearl Harbor”? (Roosevelt did the same with Pearl Harbor. Want proof? Freedom of Information Act.) He panders to the Christian Right on abortion, yet turns a blind eye to children who are already born, by opposing adequate Health Care, and the bombing of Iraqi cities? I guess we all see what we want, but I know your side, yet you haven’t taken the time to fully investigate your opposition. Why was the AirForce asked to “stand down” on 9/11? Why, even though there are two Military Airbases in the D.C. area, and with plenty of time to do so, didn’t intercept the plane(?) heading towards D.C. - White House & Pentagon? Take a look at the Pentagon photos, immediately after the attack. Where is the plane? There’s a hole alright. . .but show me the plane. Missle, maybe. Why was the CIA told “hands off” and to curtail any investigation of Bin Laden up to two months before the attack? Why was the steel from the Twin Towers immediately sent to Japan to be melted down before anyone could test, evaluate, and make determinations as to how it “melted” when the site should have been treated as a crime scene? How would it fly in court if a murder scene was cleaned of blood, fibers, and objects prior to an investigation? Now give me the facts. I’m listening. Below you will find some interesting views from Engineers who DO GIVE YOU THE FACTS. Don’t just give the information a glance, study it…click on the sidebars. Especially interesting are the Pentagon photos. Enjoy.
http://home.debitel.net/user/andreas.bunkahle/defaulte.htm
January 31st, 2005 at 3:01 pm
14. JoshM on Monday 31 January, 02:23:32 PM (#1715)
Rank: regular n00bie
http://www.JoshManning.com
I return to my argument that Adolf Hitler wasn’t necessarily a threat to the United States, yet we all agree that taking him out was the right thing.
I’m sure Hitler would have loved for us to pursue a diplomatic approach – much like many would have liked for us to do with Saddam. In fact, that’s exactly what he did for Czechoslovakia, Poland, Russia . . . those nations apparently didn’t see him as a threat to them, either.
Bewick Replies:
WOW!! Now you are comparing the threat of Iraq and Suddam to Hitler and WWII Germany?! You have outdone yourself! The rest of the world was already fighting a World War, son. We didn’t step in that fast. Want to know about WWII? My dad was a member of the Dutch Resistance and Underground. He was then selected to become a Dutch Stootroepen (Stormtrooper) by Prince Berhanrd. You had to have distinguished yourself in the Underground to be a member. After Germany capitulated my dad’s outfit volunteered to help free Dutch Indonesia from the Japanese. Many of my relatives were murdered by the Nazis. It’s funny. . .my dad who is 81 now, see’s Bush as more akin to Hitler than Saddam. But, hey, I reckon HE wouldn’t know. He’s just an “old man” who doesn’t have the life experience of a college kid.
When did Iraq invade the entire Middle East or Europe? I have to get over this one. Iraq’s threat was equal to Germany’s threat? And don’t foget. . .W’s grandfather was indicted by the U.S. Government for dealing with the Nazis while we were at war! Maybe you need to relax a bit, rest up before you keep bombarding the comment area with your intellectual meanderings.
Bewick Cory
Tennessee
January 31st, 2005 at 3:03 pm
“How about George Bush, himself? Here, let him tell you: “God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them. And then He (God) instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now i am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East.”"
Do you mind citing your source of WHERE Bush was quoted saying this? It does not sound like something he would say.
When you say:
“George has on numerous occasions expressed the “fact” that he feels that God picked him for this job. . .to lead America. ”
So WHAT. Many Americans (if not the vast majority) feel that God is in control of their lives given the fact they belive God created them. So they reason if God is in control, then the job I have is appointed by God for me to do. And because of this, all the more reason to do the job given to the best of my God given abilities.
So for GW to feel that God is the one who ultimately made him president, right, millions of Americans would agree. The same way they feel God is the one who made Bill Clinton President.
This does not mean that the American people NOR GW belive everything they do is perfect or God’s will. Only that God had some say in where they are today.
January 31st, 2005 at 3:24 pm
15. Bewick said
“yet you haven’t taken the time to fully investigate your opposition.”
Is that what you would call your comments about the pentagon. Tell the families members of the people who died in the airplane that crashed into the pentagon that it didnt happen, and that it was some made up lies by the Bush Administration. I have seen those stupid videos the left wing websites play. That does not make it a fact.
Bewick, seriously I dont have a problem that you have a different opinion, but dont base your research on left wing websites and Micheal Moore. We all know that there were obvious lies in the movie. The LIberal Newspapers agreed with that.
We all saw you will quote right out of a website and call it your own.
January 31st, 2005 at 3:28 pm
17. ryanh on Monday 31 January, 03:03:35 PM (#1718)
Rank: regular n00bie
“How about George Bush, himself? Here, let him tell you: “God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them. And then He (God) instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now i am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East.”"
Do you mind citing your source of WHERE Bush was quoted saying this? It does not sound like something he would say.
Bewick Replies:
It doesn’t? It was said to Palestinian Prime Minister, Mahmoud Abbas, after Abbas informed Bush of the particulars of his meeting with factions from Hama, Islamic Jihad, and popular and Democratic Fronts.
January 31st, 2005 at 3:37 pm
We all saw you will quote right out of a website and call it your own.
Please, don’t be an ass. You know better than that. I will always say who said what. When I posted that piece by Congressman Ron Paul, it stated at the bottom who wrote it and the wb site. I reckon because of length, it was cut short of the ending. I didn’t see that until I came back later to see your gloating accusations of “plagiarism”. You should be ashamed of yourself. Cool off and get over your issues with me. You know better than that. And anyone who checks out the “comments” can also see that it ws cut before the ending. Get a life.
January 31st, 2005 at 3:41 pm
Bewick! Man, I appologize! I didn’t realize your dad was a WWII vet! That adds, like, 700 layers of credibility to your argument!
Forgive me for doubting you.
January 31st, 2005 at 3:48 pm
Me dont be an ass. I dont have issues with you, just your way of getting your ideas across. I didnt actually accuse of you plagarism, I just thought it was funny.
It is funny, you actually seem to be getting mad, so chill a bit dude. I just disagree with you on most issues. I dont believe you are a bad guy.
How about the Voter Turn in Iraq. not to bad
January 31st, 2005 at 3:54 pm
Is this a site to discuss issues and read articles, etc., or a forum for two or three egotistical college kids to pick apart what some one else wrote and to try and show the world what “gifted minds” they are? It’s getting old. Write your own Editorials instead of commenting on others. Ryahn is the only person posting who seems to be above this. Let us see what YOU OTHERS have to say. You seem to come from the “goof on” generation. Pick yourselves up and show us what y’all have. Even your attempts at “comedy” are nothing more than mean spirited forays into humor at other’s expense. Sure others of your ilk find it amusing. Those who have shaken the college years off, find it stale.
January 31st, 2005 at 3:59 pm
How about the Voter Turn in Iraq. not to bad
No, it is good. I will wait and see where this leads. Another puppet State? Don’t foget who supported Saddam to begin with. Ever seen the photos of Rummy and Saddam hugging it up? We also supported Osama against the Russians. Oh! The hand that bites! Our intentions in Iraq have little to do with Saddam beign a tyrant. Like I said, he was “the man” a few years ago.
January 31st, 2005 at 4:03 pm
“Write your own Editorials instead of commenting on others”
I am sorry, I thought that you have been doing that when earlier when you wrote what everone said and replied. I thought that is what we were doing. As you did on 13, 15, 16, and 19.
I will tell you what, If you can find more insults from me toward you, than you toward me I will apologize.
When You post a story, this website is designed for people to comment on it. That is what we did, You then pick it apart. Again that is how it works.
Bewick, you are taking this too seriously. I dont mean disrespect, I just disagree. I am just replying to comments made. IF I wanted to read something and have no comment I would read the editorial page of the newspaper.
January 31st, 2005 at 4:05 pm
Now, the below is an example of what this “old man” sees as damn disheartening. This is what the Neo-Con, Neo-Fascists lick their chops over. Ah, the wave of the future.
http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20050131072009990029
January 31st, 2005 at 4:10 pm
All I meant was that I would honestly like to see what YOU guys have to say. Really. I’m willing to drop the message board put downs. Let’s call it the Ramdac Truce of ‘05.
January 31st, 2005 at 4:14 pm
HEHE, I think Ramdac loves hit. His hits have to be going thru the roof.
Like I said, I mean no disrespect.
January 31st, 2005 at 4:43 pm
In the old days no disrespect meant no disrespect. I have been battling all of you guys singlehandedly. I’m bound to have said more put downs, though I’m not sure of that:) It’s three or four to one. When I see the number of hits compared to the number of comments, I find it strange. Seems like they are reading the pieces, but not commenting. It is the same people who do all the critiques. I noticed that on the other pieces other than my own also. If they are not the same folks, I get the clear indication that they might be suspiciously “friends”. If you want to wage battle, I should bring “my side” from the Groups I belong to. Right now, my sword arm isn’t tired yet.
January 31st, 2005 at 4:56 pm
There are alot of Democrats who read this website. Look back at the posts during the Election.
I actually dont know anyone who posts other than my brother, Ramdac, and we disagree on most issues.
You may have been ganged up on alittle, but that is because your comments provoke the Right thinking people to comment.
January 31st, 2005 at 5:06 pm
Something to consider, as a right leaning individual, if I saw my views being poorly represented I would most likely avoid getting into the discussion in fear that the poorly presented views may be attriubted to me.
It is a fact that many other individuals share Berwies sentiment. Maybe it is time to consider that your arguments are not helping your cause while chasing away others who would normally defend you.
To prove this point, remember under “There are bigger fish to fry” the comments by Craiger Anonymous idiot who said:
“Yikes. While I agree with the basic sentiments expressed here (Neocon fascism, Rove’s fearmongering, complacency among the electorate, etc.), the presentation could use a little help. “
January 31st, 2005 at 9:08 pm
Bewick, I’ll have you know that though I’ve read this site on and off for several months, your comments were the first to make me actually want to post.
February 1st, 2005 at 12:30 am
Is that what you would call your comments about the pentagon. Tell the families members of the people who died in the airplane that crashed into the pentagon that it didnt happen, and that it was some made up lies by the Bush Administration. I have seen those stupid videos the left wing websites play. That does not make it a fact.
Bewick Says:
What the heck are you talking about?
February 1st, 2005 at 12:39 am
There Is No Tomorrow - Bill Moyers
http://www.startribune.com/stories/1519/5211218.html
February 1st, 2005 at 8:20 am
“Take a look at the Pentagon photos, immediately after the attack. Where is the plane? There’s a hole alright. . .but show me the plane. Missle, maybe.
I was just pointing out that if it was a missle, there wouldn’t be all these families of people who were flying on the plane. Then I pointed out that I have seen the conspiracy theory videos of the “show me the plane” theory. That is what I was talking about
February 1st, 2005 at 10:49 am
“United States officials were surprised and heartened today at the size of turnout in South Vietnam’s presidential election despite a Vietcong terrorist campaign to disrupt the voting. According to reports from Saigon, 83 percent of the 5.85 million registered voters cast their ballots yesterday. Many of them risked reprisals threatened by the Vietcong. A successful election has long been seen as the keystone in President Johnson’s policy of encouraging the growth of constitutional processes in South Vietnam.”
- Peter Grose, in a page 2 New York Times article titled ‘U.S. Encouraged by Vietnam Vote,’ September 4, 1967.
February 1st, 2005 at 11:09 am
I was just pointing out that if it was a missle, there wouldn’t be all these families of people who were flying on the plane. Then I pointed out that I have seen the conspiracy theory videos of the “show me the plane” theory. That is what I was talking about
Bewick:
I’m as mystified as you are. But, if you look at a photo of the hole/damage to the Pentagon, immediately after the attack (don’t look at what you perceive to be leftist conspiracy photos. . .look up your own…actual photos) there is no plane. Maybe it was. All I’m saying is that it must of Vay-Poo-Rized. . .’cause it ain’t there. Now this is a fairly large aircraft, whose nose went into the building, so the rest of the plane should be outfront. Look at ANY other crash scene photos and there are big plane parts to be seen. If there was a plane…did they clean up the whole mess in a few hours and get rid of the pieces? Unlikely. I’m just puzzled. I don’t have the answer. Go to this site, if you haven’t already. This isn’t a Leftist conspiracy page. These are a group of German engineers who looked at the evidence. Anyway, there is a column on the left side - scroll down to the Pentagon Photos. Look hard and see if you see a plane. Also, look up the photos on other sites. If they are different let me know, because this interests me. I am not “fixed” in my thinking. I read as much if not more Conservative information as Liberal. How can I form an opinion if I don’t know the sides? Contrary to your assumptions, I do study the issues. And as far as Bush is concerned, I have spent the past three years studying all that I can find on the man -the more I know, the more I study - the more convinced I am that he is not what he appears to be. I believe that he, or is it He, is a “malignant egophrenic sociopath”. In simple english, a dangerous man.
February 1st, 2005 at 11:16 am
From: Ron Martin
To: Bewick Cory
Maybe we will free Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, North Korea, Palestine, Pakistan, most of Africa, China, and Cuba next? I will hold my breath on the election and see what happens. Let Bush take his bow. Personally, I don’t think the effort was worth one American life nor the billions of dollars we spent. If the Iraqis wanted to be free they should have risen up and done it themselves. I read that over 7,000,000 Iraqis lived outside the country. Like the Jews, they could have trained their people for war and returned. Instead, we are the saviors of the world. While our people suffer. I read that almost 40 million Americans are living in poverty. 60 Million do not have medical coverage. Last time I checked Bush was the President of U.S. not Iraq.
February 1st, 2005 at 11:33 am
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?c_id=3&ObjectID=10008767
What Bill Gates has to say on the U.S. Dollar.
February 1st, 2005 at 12:33 pm
Website proving a plane hit the pentagon:
above top secret
I’m ashamed that it has actually come to this.
February 1st, 2005 at 12:52 pm
The all knowing Ron Martin!!!!
http://www.floraco.com/ronmarti.htm
February 1st, 2005 at 3:02 pm
OH wow, a lull in posts today.
February 1st, 2005 at 11:19 pm
41. JoshM on Tuesday 01 February, 12:52:32 PM (#1742)
Rank: regular n00bie
http://www.JoshManning.com
The all knowing Ron Martin!!!!
http://www.floraco.com/ronmarti.htm
Bewick Replies:
Gosh Josh, don’t you EVER get tired of being a complete asshole? Just because kids picked on you when you were younger, doesn’t mean you should carry that chip forever. I do see why they did, though. Get your facts straight. WRONG RON MARTIN, dude!!! You are beginning to look pretty bad. Every reply you post is a freakin’ brain dead dud. A writing major who can’t write, a sense of humor that is no more than crapping on other people…it is all very, very sad. Sorry, but that’s the way I see it. By the looks of things, so do many others.
February 1st, 2005 at 11:22 pm
Gosh, Josh. . .Now it’s your turn to post some lame reply. And then you can answer yourself. I tried to bring this out of the gutter, but it didn’t work.
February 2nd, 2005 at 8:15 am
Bewick,
He attacked your comment, you attacked him. Just because someone has something to say, doesnt put it in the gutter. I mean no one has called you an A-hole that I know of. Even though you didnt like it, It is ok for him to discredit your source of information. It happens in the courtroom everyday.
Even though, you may have been picked on a little bit earlier, I would not call his comment being an A-hole. I mean the dude was a palm reader. If it is the same Ron Martin, that was a funny post.
February 2nd, 2005 at 8:30 am
Bewick,
That was not very nice what you told Josh. Remember, you were complaining earlier about everyone attacking you but you are just as fast if not faster to lash out with a torrid of mean and personal attacks. Why go there? You have talked previously yourself about being more mature. Why stoop to such low levels? Don’t let your emotion get the best of you.
However, what josh posted may have been miss communicated because of the generation gap. The link was OBVISOUSLY a joke to anyone of my era (not an attack). IT was a palm reader, come on…..everyone knows it’s not the same guy. That is ridiculous.
Now come on Bewick, I know you are better than this.
February 2nd, 2005 at 9:22 am
Get with it guys. You are all as snide as they come. I’m just calling the kettle black. It has nothing to do with facts or discourse. It always the snide little comments that accompany them. Josh knows that. I’m not telling him anything new. I’ll stick with that. Generational? Perhaps. Look at the media that panders to you guys. . .even your comedians. . .they find humor in the diss. They are bankrupt creatively and resort to dissing all around them. It’s a way of life, ain’t it boys? Making fun of everyone is easier than improving your own lot. Josh? Can you hear me? Later, dudes. Look outside your bubble. . .there’s a whole different world out there.
February 2nd, 2005 at 9:24 am
And when your done thinking up your next retort…give momma a call for some extra spending cash.
February 2nd, 2005 at 9:26 am
“God didn’t call America to do what she’s doing in the world now. God didn’t call America to engage in a senseless, unjust war … We’ve committed more war crimes almost than any nation in the world, and I’m going to continue to say it. And we won’t stop it because of our pride and our arrogance as a nation.â€?
– Martin Luther King, Jr, 1967
February 2nd, 2005 at 9:34 am
And by the way. . .I guess it’s the “plagiarize” comment that was posted that did it for me. Maybe it’s “generational” but you don’t make a statement like that. . .ever. . .unless you damn well have the “facts.”
February 2nd, 2005 at 9:57 am
Bewick, Bewick, Bewick…I’m telling you man. Your are digging your own grave.
February 2nd, 2005 at 9:59 am
Martin Luther King Jr. was a great man. I truly respect his vision.
However, I disagree that this country has committed more war crimes than any nation in history. When you look at millions of innocent poeple who died at the hands of tyrants in this world, we simply do not compare. That is just my opinion.
February 2nd, 2005 at 10:10 am
Bewick,
I know “Plagiarize” is a TOUGH word to hear. But when I was in college, if we did not cite our sources, even if it was accidentally, we got an “F” for plagiarism. We could even get kicked out of school.
It did not matter if it was unintentional or not. They were sticklers about it. We had much fear before “submitting” a paper. The application for the definition of plagiarism is much tougher than most people realize.
Was anyone else’s college like this? I would imagine it is like that nation wide.
February 2nd, 2005 at 10:11 am
errrrrr - Ramdac, can you fix that closing < / b > tag above
February 2nd, 2005 at 10:25 am
Yeah, we have a thing called turnitin.com - a big database that all our papers are submitted to. If it even looks like plagairism, we get an F. Intentional is kicked out of school.
February 2nd, 2005 at 10:27 am
Woah! What’s the deal with all the bold? Is it just my browers??
February 2nd, 2005 at 10:46 am
Yeah our school was the same. If it was on purpose then you were out of school for a year. If it was unintentional, you got an F.
February 2nd, 2005 at 10:56 am
Fixed. It was josh’s fault. *me points*
February 2nd, 2005 at 11:55 am
Gosh, Josh…I’ve been outsmarted once again. My grave has been dug. Have you boys taken that Course: The Virtues Of Gloating 101? With any luck we’ll have a Draft soon, and you can show the world what America is made of. I’m sure you boys are eager to back up your Neo-Con views of the world. But then again being of the Neo-Con mindset, I’m sure you’ll find a way to worm out. Is’nt your motto? Let Others Do The Fighting - I’ve Got Better Things To Do. . . .
It certainly was the College motto of your War President & His War Vice President.
It’s easy to uphold such high moral standards and dreams of world conquest when someone else does the dying. You know, those young men and women who don’t have the luxury of College are fighting and dying so that you can smugly sit back and “support” them. You call “support”, giving the boys doing the fighting a great big thumbs up and a “YOU GO GUYS!” Sorry, that doesn’t cut it. During Vietnam, Korea, WWII, WWI, the IRAQ War, there were many young men who because of their belief in the American Way, enlisted…volunteered to fight for their beliefs. They didn’t need a Draft. Have any of these “radical” notions ever crossed your minds?
February 2nd, 2005 at 12:07 pm
Oh, gee wizz guys, I almost forgot. Since our best guess is that it was unintentional…give me that F! Just think, if it was intentional…I’d be kicked off Ramdac for a year! My mommie is sure gonna be mad at me for that “F”! And I was just about to call home for some extra cash. Oh, gosh josh. . .it’s time to crack a beer and watch MTV and listen to that hot band, 3 Doors Down, while I ponder the politics of the Middle East. Later dudes!
February 2nd, 2005 at 12:17 pm
Ryanh told you that you were digging your own grave, not Josh.
Your President Clinton believed in the same motto, but at least President Bush join the Reserves not the peace corp like Clinton.
Most of the people who signed up for the military did it so they could have the luxury of college. I would rather give the soldiers a bug thumbs up than call them murderers of an illegal war.
I would imagine the soldiers would rather have my support and respect, than what most liberals “do” for them. Left - wing Liberals say they have the soldiers in mind, but why did the soldiers back a Republican President.
See you assume that I was all for the war, but I was not. I didnt think it was the right move to go to war, But I refuse to belittle the troops once they are fighting.
Just my opinion.
February 2nd, 2005 at 12:41 pm
WASHINGTON (Feb. 2) - Half of all U.S. bankruptcies are caused by soaring medical bills and most people sent into debt by illness are middle-class workers with health insurance, researchers said on Wednesday.
The study was published in the journal Health Affairs.
Maggie Fox, Reuters
February 2nd, 2005 at 12:52 pm
The reason is because the wealthy of course do not worry about money, and the very poor are taken care of my the federal government. Almost every aspect of money favors the poor and the rich
I read an article on college tuition the other day. Same principles apply, rich pay for school, Gov. pays for the poor.
That is the reason I hate social programs.
February 2nd, 2005 at 12:58 pm
Wow, all this attention given to a chubby, balding twenty-two year old English major from south Louisiana. My ego has just shot through the roof, though I never realized my opinions carried that much weight.
First of all, Doc, I have to say I do feel that my integrity has been personally attacked. I challenge you to read all of my posts. You will notice that I will attack your arguments, never you personally. Yes, there was that one whip about not trusting old people, but I wasn’t attacking you for being old, just trying to make a point that your age doesn’t necessarily make you wiser, though I do typically respect an older person’s experience, even when I disagree with them. Ryan can tell you of many stories of when I’ve gotten myself in trouble because I didn’t want to disagree with someone older than I am.
Again, I challenge you to look for any place were I personally attacked you or your integrity. Since you have begun to post, for whatever reason here, you decided to pick on me. The only reason I see is because I didn’t agree with you on the “Cult of Death� thing. When you didn’t want to argue the points I raised there. You began to hold my age against me, insulted my education, attacked my faith, bashed me for being gay on my personal website (I’m not), called me a Nazi, told everyone I was racist, and criticized my writing skillz, and made several stereotypical accusations against me. First of all, I do not care for modern comedians. I much prefer Chevy Chase, Steve Martin, Jerry Lewis, Bob Hope, etc. Second, I have been living on my own since I went to college and don’t ask my parents’ for money. In fact, for several years I supported myself with a minimum wage job until I found a much better paying one with a regional planning agency, which I didn’t actively look for but was offered to me (not saying this to brag – in fact I don’t think it is that unusual). Thirdly, I have never drank beer or any other type of alcohol and actively encourage people not to do so. I have many alcoholics in my family and know first hand the damage it can do to one’s life. Also, I don’t care for MTV or music videos in general. I never have been a big music person. In fact, I don’t recall ever listening to Three Doors Down, though I am aware of whom they are.
If you have a disagreement with me, please feel free to discuss it. If you want to pick apart any argument I’ve made, I invite you to do so. If I didn’t want you to, I wouldn’t have posted here in the first place. I would have kept to myself. In fact, you did a good job with several of them and almost caused me to rethink my position, but then you came with this onslaught of attacks.
Anyway, sorry to Ramdac and the other viewers for taking up space with this comment, but felt it should be clarified.
February 2nd, 2005 at 1:09 pm
Her ya go again. Why don’t you guys respect the facts?
61. Joey on Wednesday 02 February, 12:17:35 PM (#1762)
Rank: Major
Ryanh told you that you were digging your own grave, not Josh.
Bewick Replies: Yeah, I know. I didn’t say that Josh did.
Ryahn Says:
Bush join the Reserves not the peace corp like Clinton.
Bewick Replies: Yeah Buddy! His father got him in over thousands of others on the waiting list. George checked off the box on his enlistment form which stated that he did NOT volunteer for “foreign service”. Translation: Vietnam! During the Vietnam War people were desperate to get into the National Guard and the Coast Guard to keep from going to Vietnam. An odd thing happened during the Iraq business. Bush had been taking a lot of heat for his being in the Guard, insinuating that they don’t fight in overseas conflict. ( I don’t believe that they should. They are for HOME PROTECION like my .45 and 12 guage) I notice that he made a POINT of using the National Guard to fight in Iraq. My opinion is that it serves his warped ego. “See THEY DO FIGHT?!” THEY are making HIM look good in the process. Ah. . .what a warrior!
Ryanh Says:
Most of the people who signed up for the military did it so they could have the luxury of college. I would rather give the soldiers a bug thumbs up than call them murderers of an illegal war.
Bewick Replies:
Most? Where is your fact sheet on that one? I and those I know would never call them murders (though just between us…some are). Bush is the murderer. He put those young people in harm’s way for no good cause. War is serious. War should only be used as a last resort. People die.
Ryahn Says:
Left - wing Liberals say they have the soldiers in mind, but why did the soldiers back a Republican President.
Bewick Replies:
Left wing liberals do have the soldiers in mind. Are you aware that the Bush Administration blocked a great portion of the overseas military vote? I’ll tell you a little secret. I joined the 101 Airborne in 1968. In hindsight, and by the Grace of God, I broke my neck (big time) during the first week of basic training. It was a miracle that probably saved my life. I still live just a few miles from Fort Campbell. Fort Campbell is just over the border in KY, but also extends into the Clarksville area of TN. MOST of close my friends are members or Veterans of the 101 Screaming Eagles. I think that you would be shocked about what they believe off the record. And yes, many people voted for Bush because of the War. It is a statistical fact that people will almost always support the incumbent President in time of War. I’m probably as different from what you view me as, as apples are to oranges.
Ryahn Says:
But I refuse to belittle the troops once they are fighting.
Bewick Says:
Me too. But I refuse to support a war that is wrong. I refuse to support a President and Secretary of State who lied to us to get us there. Just my opinion.
February 2nd, 2005 at 1:12 pm
Josh Says:
Wow, all this attention given to a chubby, balding twenty-two year old English major from south Louisiana. My ego has just shot through the roof, though I never realized my opinions carried that much weight.
Bewick Relies:
Don’t float away. They don’t carry much weight. I was joking.
February 2nd, 2005 at 1:18 pm
Whoa!!!! Josh! Dude, I appologize! I didn’t realize that you were non-stereotypical, and OK! That adds, like, 900 layers of credibility to your arguement!!
February 2nd, 2005 at 1:20 pm
Ok, I admit, thats a good come back
February 2nd, 2005 at 1:21 pm
Joey. . .”That is the reason I hate social programs.”
Maybe someday EVEN YOU will need some help, a hand up. Just something to think on.
February 2nd, 2005 at 1:26 pm
Anyway, I didn’t say any of that to add credibility to myself. In fact, I know many, many drunk people who have said some very wise things.
February 2nd, 2005 at 1:33 pm
Bewick, Some of the comments you said ryanh made i made. I am not putting you down, just pointing it out.
Social Programs
I am a republican, we dont typically like social programs. I feel if i need a helping hand I can go to my family or my church. Even though social programs help some people the money for the most part is wasted. I just demand if we are going to have a social program, then they need to be efficient
February 2nd, 2005 at 1:33 pm
To Josh… I’ve got nothing against you. But, Im too old to fool with. You are a clevert lad. . .and I like that in you. But you know as well as me, that you put me down plenty. You are just not as overt as me and the others. But, you get them in just fine. I can read between the lines as well as on the lines. I’m willing to bury the hatchet, but it seems these forays into Springer Land are good for Ramdac Ratings. And I appreciate “the Ramdac” for posting my Articles. My views are strong and blunt. . .y’all (that means more than one) call them raving lunacy and sandwich board crazy. I’m not of the mealy mouthed butt kissing Democrats. If that offends that type. So be it. They need to be offended, same as the current Administration. I, and many, many more, find them offenseive. His offense kills, mine doesn’t. I just sparks controversial comments.
February 2nd, 2005 at 1:34 pm
We need to start a new topic, since we are way of subject.
my fault
February 2nd, 2005 at 1:37 pm
then they need to be efficient
I couldn’t agree more. And so should the awesome amounts spent on the Military. Efficient? Why do the Republicans (and Democrats) waste so much money on death while they turn their backs on much, much smaller amounts spent on life?
It’s strange that I got such a negative reaction to Bigger Fish To Fry from Repubs. . .I started out right from the git go by slamming the Democrats!
February 2nd, 2005 at 2:13 pm
BEWICK CORY!!!
The majority of the statements you said I made above were not made by me. They were by Joey.
You CITED your source wrong. I am not sure if the “P” word applies, but boy you would have failed English by now if this was a class
February 2nd, 2005 at 2:40 pm
Your Goll Dang Right!!! I started off with Joey and for some lapse of mental awareness switched to Ryanh! Don’t ask me why I did. There aren’t even any bongs in sight! And I don’t even drink! Not even beer! I reckon I’m geting the Three Musketeers confused!! Maybe it’s the onset of that there old-timers disease. But, yeah, I did start with Joey, and my points were in response to HIS comments! Well, slap my ass! Call it “friendly fire”. . .sometimes in the heat of battle, the wrong guy gets killed!
Thanks for pointing out that error. JOEY!!! Yeah YOU!!! The comments were meant for YOU!!!
February 4th, 2005 at 1:26 pm
The calm after a storm.