“CULT OF DEATH” - Bewick Cory
America has a grim fascination with death. Especially military death; war death. Death is taken to heart with religious and patriotic pageantry. The Cult of Death. Military sacrifice is woven into every fiber of our Nation’s being. It’s heart beats to the drums of war; its blood pumps to the call of Patriotism. We idolize war. We hold it to our bosom as a friend to be cherished and nurtured - protected, and unleashed.
Beyond the personal tragedy, to have a young man die while performing his “duty” in time of war is to be considered of the highest honor. Our pride, our heritage, our finest moments seem to stem from war - its tragedies and fruits - our sense of who we are as a Nation. From the American Revolution to the present, we measure ourselves against our last great conflict. One of our most deadly and bloody wars was fought right here on home ground, between ourselves. Apparently there wasn’t any foreign soil worth bleeding on at the time. Passions ran high, words were said, lines were drawn, and it would have to do. The all too real blood, guts, fear, pain, suffering, and death are transformed into honor, nobility, courage, and everlasting life immortal. After enough blood sacrifice has been made, and truce has been called, peace has been made, and war has been ended, we go about our business as though not much of anything has happened. Enemies become friends, treaties are made, business resumes, all is forgiven (almost).
We immediately go about memorializing: making tributes, giving speeches, flying flags, organizing parades…and oh, don’t forget the cemeteries: The centerpiece of all worship. The beautifully manicured cemeteries. The grass is mowed, the flowers set…the Temple is open for worship: Memorial Day, USA. This is the day we honor the memory (for that is all that is left) of all the sacrificed men and women who once proudly wore the uniform. A proud tradition passed on from generation to generation - with each generation left to make its own war, lest they be cheated from taking their place in the tradition of honor and pageant, and glory be to God above. Each generation must make this blood sacrifice or be excluded in shame, real or imagined, from the celebration of the Cult of Death. A National purpose is served by inclusion in the Rite. Worship without inclusion rings hollow on the generational soul.
A generation disgraced by the lack of blood letting is a wasted generation at best. How can such a generation hold their heads high as the flags pass and the marching bands play? They are doomed to silent humiliation by former generations who have shed their blood willingly and profusely for our Nation’s honor. This morning as I watched the news, our war dead had just topped the 1,000 mark. The words which rang down from Capitol Hill: “Remember, honor, and mourn.” Of course we will remember, and honor, and mourn…but there is something much deeper running here. Something touching on the unsavory.
Honor. A word raised up like the Most High in Heaven. Honor. Duty. Pride. Death. Our National religion summed up in four words. Four words which make us who we are.
Bewick Cory
Tennessee
January 25th, 2005 at 10:40 pm
I totally disagree. Americans do not “Idolize� war. What rational person wants to go to war? No one wants to see their loved ones die just so they can have a “parade� in their honor or “worship� in their cemetery because it is some kind of badge of honor. People serve and die for there country, (as a whole), because they believe in something greater than themselves. They believe they are doing something that is higher than them. In America we call that something Freedom.
There is no “cult of death�. We have a “culture of life�. We show respect and honor to those who have died (Memorial Day) to give thanks.
Tell the wife with her new born child crying at her husbands grave that he died because someone had to make a “blood sacrifice� to celebrate death. No, you would not dare. The reason you would not is because it is not true. That husband fought to keep his wife and child free. He understood that the world is an evil violent place and that unless that evil is stood up to (with force if necessary) it would eventually enslave or kill his family. He died to give the gift of life and a free life at that for his family and country men. As a nation, we take time to show our gratefulness to those who serve and come back alive (parades) and those who paid the ultimate price for us (Memorial Day). We do this not to celebrate death, but to honor them for the free life they gave us. This “tradition� if you will, is what defines our countries character. Selfless sacrifice for others.
What kind of people would we be if we did not show these signs of respect, and what type of editorial would you write about then?
January 25th, 2005 at 10:57 pm
Ryan, I couldn’t agree more. While I understand *somewhat* of where you are coming from, Bewick, I have to disagree.
There is a huge difference between respecting those who fight and sacrifice for a purpose and what you are talking about. It is one thing to thank those who fought liberating Europe from the Nazis, who defended us against the Ultra-Nationalist Japanese, who fought to stop the spread of Communism in Korea and Vietnam. And who are now fighting to liberate and bring freedom to an area so widespread with tyranny and injustice that it is easy to convince them we are occupiers rather than liberators.
Personally, I think you’ve watched one too many war movies that intentionally romanticize this stuff. None of these soldiers go to war hoping they will die and have statue built in their honor. If given the option of having a personal memorial and a nice write up in the paper or seeing their family again, they choose the family every time. But they also recognize that they must get the job done because their country asks them to do it. They realize it is the right thing to do. They know personal sacrifice for a cause greater than their own self is a worthy choice to make. And I will forever respect that choice.
If this is your definition of being in a cult of death, then count me as one of the happily brainwashed members.
January 26th, 2005 at 12:11 am
I applaud you both, and find myself in agreement with you.
January 26th, 2005 at 8:39 am
Its wierd that you feel that the US is in love with death and war, when it is the Muslim extremist who are telling young muslim men that if you kill yourself and die fighting you will be in heaven with many virgins.
Our brave soldiers are even fighting for those young Muslim men, so they no longer have to live in a system that values their live so little
There is nothing wrong with having a few special days to put our soldiers on a pedestal. I put them on a pedestal not because I love death, but because they were brave enough to do something I am not doing myself. Was I wrong to put the NYPD, and NYFD on a pedestal after 9/11. They (like the soldeirs) put other people before themselves, and that deserves recongition.
January 26th, 2005 at 8:52 am
“Its wierd that you feel that the US is in love with death and war, when it is the Muslim extremist who are telling young muslim men that if you kill yourself and die fighting you will be in heaven with many virgins.”
EXCELLENT point Joey! Now there is a perfect contrast to see the difference between “life” and “death”.
January 26th, 2005 at 11:47 am
It amazes me that the prolific “Joey” and the equally prolific “ryanh” are both 25 year olds from Louisiana! They both agree with each other wholeheartedly! It’s as if they were agreeing with themselves! A strange anomaly for sure. These two kindred souls of the closest kind seem to miss the obvious each and every time. I certainly hope that they themselves have enjoyed a stay in the Armed Forces, and that they have served in combat in one of our latest illegal wars of misadventure. As a matter of fact, they are both (though one) prime age for Iraqi service. I say, go…go help your Nation in its hour of need. Save us from the Muslim hordes streaming out of Iraq to do us harm. My heart goes out to you. It would make me proud as an American to see you take up the cause of liberty and justice and the American way!
January 26th, 2005 at 12:02 pm
Bewick, what you fail to understand is that I didnt volunteer to fight, which again is why we hold the people who do to such high regard. However, If there came a time when this country need poeple beyond a volunteer basis, and asked me to fight, I would do it in a hearbeat. It is not my thirst for blood that will make me do this but my duty to this country.
I dont understand this idea of a “illegal war” what would be defind as a legal war? What makes this an Illegal one?
I am sure you can find people of relatively the same age as you, that believe quite the same was as you. I even bet there is a 25 year old in Louisiana that does not agree with me; therefore, I dont understand you think it is such a strange anomaly. Many poeple voted the way i did, as did many vote the way you did.
Besides I am 26.
January 26th, 2005 at 12:35 pm
Doc Ber,
Am I misreading this, or did you just make the assumption that Ryan and Joey were the same person?
And what the heck is a legal war anyway? UN approved? Read any of the resolutions?
January 26th, 2005 at 12:39 pm
Right, Joey is older. Besides, he is *probably* from Northern Louisiana, where I am from the Bayous of South Louisiana right off of the Gulf. Might as well be two different states.
Anyway, I noticed you are 50 something year old. You are a flower child, which explains a WHOLE lot. Now as for as my military background, you have no idea what I have done. Since I do not want to boast, I will neither be confirming nor denying my personal background. But I will gladly brag about my other family member’s background. Here is the quick run down:
1. Grandpa Army WWII, Infantry.
2. Other Grandpa Navy WWII.
3. Great Uncle WWII, only one to survive out of his platoon while fighting the Japanese in the Island hopping.
4. Uncles, Vietnam.
5. Many 1st cousins who I love dearly, currently deployed to Iraq.
So when I speak of the current war, and past wars I have a bit of a stake in it as well. I am deeply appreciative of what my fathers before me have done….Unlike you.
Just so you know, you seem to imply that I and Joey are the same person. I won’t really bother trying to convince you otherwise, but we don’t know each other and on top of that Joey (as disclosed today) is Ramdac’s brother. I wonder if you other insights are as equally insightful.
January 26th, 2005 at 12:42 pm
Also, I think it’s hilarious that two (or one) of the youngesters can run logical laps around your arguments.
No worries, though. If there is anything our immature generation has learned from the one before us - the fifty+ generation from the seventies - it’s that all the old people out there are telling us lies for their own personal gain anyway.
January 26th, 2005 at 2:06 pm
I don’t recall saying that you were the same person. That is your assessment. You kids are a hoot! Flower child? Far from it. Just a realist. I’m mighty proud of you though! Even if you won’t put your money were your mouth is and fight for our right to invade other countries. Let’s leave that to those who have more conviction.
January 26th, 2005 at 2:11 pm
Hey Doc,
Hate to point this out, but you did make the ignorant accusation that they were the same person. Unless your writing style has less logic than your argument, you said:
What else would you have meant by that?
January 26th, 2005 at 2:15 pm
Josh. . .not to be picky, but I visited your site, and your Jap-N-AJar says all there is to say about you. Do you know where Louisiana stands on the list of poor eduction in this country? Right near the bottom. Let alone that the US is ranked at the very bottom for education out of all the first world countries. Now, that is a double whammy!! You boys need to join the Service and get a real education, while helping us free the Muslim world from themselves. You seem like a fine Christian lad. . .show us your stuff!
January 26th, 2005 at 2:17 pm
Both (though one). . .in thought. Get it?
January 26th, 2005 at 2:22 pm
There you go again BewickCory, more myths and misinformation.
1st, there are plenty of very intelligent and very dumb people in Louisiana. It is the same in any state. Our public schools could use some work, but it is mainly a few key areas that bring down the rest of the state. Our private schools are top notch. The public colleges are great, LSU, LA Tech, Nicholls State, and on and on. Ill put up our education against anyone.
As for as the US being on the bottom on Education in the world, that is a Myth. A degree from the US is very prestigious in any country in the world. Just ask all of the International students who compete to get a degree here each year.
No flames, no personal insults, just the facts.
January 26th, 2005 at 2:26 pm
haha, glad you visited! My Japanese friends love the Jap-N-A-Jar thing.
January 26th, 2005 at 2:28 pm
Boys. . .are we all that much more free because we lost 58,000 men in Vietnam? Are we going to be more free. . .our wives and loved ones, because we flatten Iraq, a country who had absolutely no means to harm us? They had no Navy, no Airforce, a broken Army, no WMD’s, had absolutely no part in the 9/11 attack. Why not attack China? North Korea? Because they are too powerful, and not enough black gold. WWII was the last military involvment that this country was part of that had any social redeeming value. George Bush’s grandfather was in business with the Nazis during this period. Capitalism always overshadows conscience. Our men die for the greed of corporate America, and you call it Patriotism? They were duped, just like yourselves. Punch in PNAC on your computer and read away. Learn what they are about, and you will learn what this Administration is about. But, then again, by the sound of it. . .you would agree fully.
January 26th, 2005 at 2:58 pm
Let me get this straight,
I am ignorant because I am from Louisiana, I have no conviction, I celebrate death, and worst of all you say I am 25.
Bewick, I agree you have the right to an opinion, but you need to discuss facts.
I have a college degree, so that puts me ahead of a large precentage of people(I am from louisiana, go figure). I have plenty of conviction in what I believe in otherwise I would get caught up in these discussions. I do celebrate our nations military, I know I didnt enter the Military, but the demands for me to enter(at 18) were not the same as my past family memebers(grandparents, uncles, etc.). I am 26. hehe
One thing you did get right, I am a hoot.
January 26th, 2005 at 3:07 pm
Tell the family members of the fallen soldiers they died for the greed of corporate America.
The Military personal I have talked to agree that we should be fighting, most voted for Bush.
All you arguements may look good on paper or on a screen, but when you put facts into the equation it just doesnt add up
January 26th, 2005 at 5:47 pm
Ok, you worldly young men. You have it all figured out. God Bless you in your persuits. I have facts for all my arguments. Otherwise I could not make them. The Hitler Youth mentality you so admire will never be swayed by any facts that I may offer, you are well aware of that. You seem to be all excited about being 26! I’m sorry I was wrong by a year. I went by your profile. I will not argue with what seems like the only two people who read the opinions on this site. You need to open your eyes and pull your heads out of your butts before you will comprehend what you will never know. Perhaps you should write your own opinions on the world situation. We wait with baited breath.
January 26th, 2005 at 8:02 pm
Don’t worry, Joey, you aren’t ignorant for any of the reasons you listed, only because you don’t agree with Doc here. He’s experienced, you know. He’s seen and lived through things we haven’t.
Doc, you got me rolling here.
I’m still waiting to see them. So far, all I have seen is a bunch of accusations backed up by no evidence. It appears to me to be all ultra-left talking points. But, I’m only 22, so I’m probably just a stupid kid.
Anyway, Berwie, you say, “Capitalism always overshadows conscience.” Yet, in the same statement you ask, “[A]re we all that much more free because we lost 58,000 men in Vietnam?” You also go on to criticize the current war as unjust.
I want to know what your definition of conscious is. Is turning a blind eye to the atrocities of Saddam Hussein and Ho Chi Minh truly your definition of having a conscious? Unlike some in this world, I do not see Arabs and Asians as lesser people than Caucasians. I think when we see tyranny happening in these places, we are just as morally responsible to help just as we would in Nazi controlled Europe.
Explain to me please what treat did Hitler pose to the United States of America in the 1940s? Why is it that when we were attacked by Japan, we invaded Europe? Hitler’s plan was race and space . . . . the space he wanted was in the Soviet Union, not North America. So why did we intervene? Hitler, it can easily be argued (or could have been argued in the 1940s – remember that we now have the advantage of hindsite), was not necessarily a threat to the United States.
You say WWII was morally redeeming. Why? What difference is there between the persecuted Slavs and Jews than the persecuted Kurds? What difference was it if you were a Communist or Liberal in Nazi Germany than if you were in any type of political opposition to Saddam Hussein? Tell Paul Ai (http://home.messiah.edu/~jk1289/pastor.html) that spending 10 ½ years in prison, re-education camp and forced labor camp for preaching Christianity is tough luck because he wasn’t born in America. That things aren’t actually as bad in Vietnam as the good ol’ conservative boys in Washington make it out to be. And that his life wasn’t important enough for any of our boys to die for.
Yes, Doc, listening to you has made me realize that Cowboy George, with his secret police force and brainwashing programs, are much more terrible than the tolerance of Saddam Hussein and Ho Chi Minh – the supreme protectors of human rights.
January 27th, 2005 at 9:00 am
“Cult of Death”? Puuuuuleeeez. I suggest you visit the Palestinian Child Abuse Slide Show at LGF. It seems like you are one of those people who think America is the root of all things evil. I would agree that there are things about the U.S. that aren’t perfect. But I don’t throw the baby out with the bath water–especially in comparison with other cultures who truly love death.
Here’s an idea: visit the Sudan and report back about their culture if you survive. Or how about this: try to visit Mecca as a non-Muslim and see how far you get (tell them you’re Jewish while you’re at it and tell us how that went).
Honoring our soldiers has nothing to do with an obsession with death. Having served myself, I know who is in the military and I respect them. There is nothing wrong with serving in the military, and I come from a long line of military members. I was in for 12 years. I think you’ll find that if you get to know them, they are real people too.
As far as the legality of war goes, you must be referring to “international law.” Any political science professor will tell you international law is a joke. If you are looking for somebody to enforce international law, how is that done? By nicely asking the law breakers to stop or passing resolution after resolution from bureaucratic committees? Do you want the U.N. to be the enforcer or pay back the billions of lost dollars that was supposed to feed the Iraqis? Do you mean the same U.N. where every Arab nation except Jordan boycotted a Holocaust ceremony? The same U.N. who have pedophiles deployed in the Congo?
January 27th, 2005 at 9:40 am
“I have facts for all my arguments. Otherwise I could not make them.”
You dont need facts to make an arguement. Anyone anywhere can isolate a topic and paint a pretty picture to suit the ideas. It just happens to be more credible to use facts.
If you really want my Hilter youth mentality to be swayed, then you need to stop trying to paint a pretty picture.
January 27th, 2005 at 6:05 pm
It’s bed time kids.
January 27th, 2005 at 6:10 pm
Dude, It cracks me up when you refer to us as kids, when it is obvious that your only basis for you to feel correct in the subject is your age.
Serilously though it is funny. I hope you continue to post opnions because I have had a ball this week.
January 27th, 2005 at 11:42 pm
MKAnderson, very nice post.
January 27th, 2005 at 11:51 pm
…And Joey, regarding being cracked up by his “kid” comments…
Its a fallacy in argument whereby one, usually lacking facts, results to personal attacks. It’s a form of ad hominem.
check it out here
January 28th, 2005 at 12:15 am
Oh yeah, this guy does “personal attacks” big time! Google his name, and you will see that he is labled a “troll” in other forums. He commonly gets his posts locked. He even got rebuked by the moderator for giving his personal “opinion” with out facts on a BUSH BASHING site!!
Not only that, he continued his personal attacks on a “humor” site. Real mature. But that is ok, the humor site is not supposed to be real mature…that is why it is humor…so feel free to check out this link and leave whatever immature posts you want that you see fit:
http://www.joshmanning.com/friends/guestbook/default.asp?PagePosition= 1
(Ramdac, if there is a problem linking to this site feel free to remove this post.)
January 28th, 2005 at 9:18 am
Oddly enough, the doc here was bashing Ryan and me for being gay on my personal site (we aren’t).
I really don’t care - I think it’s rather humorous - but find it amusing that his kind are usually the ones preaching tolerance on these type of issues. In a few days, I would have even predicted him attacking Bush for his “bigoted” approach to homosexual marriage.
January 28th, 2005 at 12:35 pm
Apparently this is a site dedicated to wise-cracking young Conservatives. YOU may write comments without ANY “facts” to back your opinion up. That’s fine, eh? Cult of Death doesn’t dishonor any individuals who have died, some in vain, others for a reason. It makes the point that we as a Nation embrace war and war death as our National “face”. Others who did the same were ancient Rome and WWI & WWII Germany…you can also ad pre-WWII Japan. They all got the love of death and war beaten out of them. So will we. Our direction under the Neo-Cons and the Bush Administration is charted by PNAC: Project for the New American Century. They are a Neo-Conservative think tank that promotes an ideology of total world domination through the use of force. Members include: Richard Perle, Elliot Abrams, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Jeb Bush, Paul Wolfowitz (one of its architects), and William Kristol. I honor any young man who refuses to fight in an unjust cause. I also honor a young man who fights for a cause he believes in. You two young men refuse to back your convictions. You stated that there is no draft, so you don’t have to go. I reckon you will let others die for your beliefs. You have better things to do. Look in the mirror. As far as your other petty points…they sound as if they were coming from the lips of little kids who once were picked on and now can shoot their mouths off under cover of the internet. I thought that this was a serious site. I was wrong. It is a college boy joke fest.
January 28th, 2005 at 4:19 pm
I clearly state the country did not need me when I was 18, and now with a wife and a kid on the way to support it would be nearly impossible to leave and fight. Therefore, I support the troops, and I want American to be succeed in making the world a better place. And YES a world of free people would be better place.
You if want a serious conversation, you must grow up a little bit. I will have you know Ramdac and myself disgree on almost everything politcally, but he chooses to only use arguements he can stand behind. He doesnt just shoot off the mouth, and then try to put other people down. Look back on the site, Ramdac did a whole story of fallacies in arguements. You really should read it. I am sure that there is alot of people who agree with you on this site, but refuse to stand behind someone who represents himself the way you do.
Again with the kids jokes. Is that seriously all you got?
January 28th, 2005 at 6:14 pm
Again, your arguements are without FACTS. Putting down? That’s all you do. Respect? You have none. Grow up? OK. Wife and kids? So do many, many of the brave men fighting this lie of a war. You will have to do better than use your Republican style put downs. Also, get your facts straight. Smsirking Chimp posted my stories. Only the messages are blocked. Get your facts straight. It seems to be of utmost importance to you. Take my posts off your site. They seems to be there for a small group of Conservacon Hitler youth to take pot shots at. You need to look into what I have to say for yourself. Do YOUR homework. I admit that I fell into argueing with the kids. I shouldn’t have. Get your laughs elsewhere. When dealing with A-holes, sometimes you end up being one yourself. It’s the only language they understand. This will be the last message from me, so have a ball with your immature posturing. Like I said, I didn’t know that this was a Conserva-youth site. Again, I still think that you boys should be fighting for this country. I would then be proud of you.
January 28th, 2005 at 9:10 pm
Boom Boom. The firecrackers go off. Celebrating begans. Old man runs off scared. Scares kids with threats of leaving
January 29th, 2005 at 3:24 am
Y’all are just too cute. You tee hee hee and gloat like little girls. Write something. Show us YOUR thoughts. Boom Boom. Smug as a bug in a rug. Boom Boom. Kids scared of fighting for their beliefs and their country. Boom Boom. Let others do the bleeding. Scared kids talking internet tough. Anyway, I was just kidding around with y’all. . .Boom Boom. . .much like YOUR “JapsNajar,” and “Black People Like You”. . .and like you, I’m just having fun with Conservacons On The Ropes. You should have the same sense of humor that your Japanese and Black friends have. All my conservative friends think y’all are a hoot. And by the way, I’ve always been a Conservative Republican, until the Neo-Cons took over. Boom Boom. So, now it’s time for you to post your snide little remarks. Have to it. Boom Boom. Kids shouldn’t play with fireworks. Boom Boom. Watch your eyes and fingers. Boom Boom. And always remember. . .let others die for YOUR beliefs. Boom Boom. You have better things to do.
January 29th, 2005 at 3:27 am
Last Message??? Whoops…I pulled a Condi & Bush, and lied.
January 29th, 2005 at 4:13 am
1. What if the policies of foreign intervention, entangling alliances, policing the world, nation building, and spreading our values through force are deeply flawed?
2. What if it is true that Saddam Hussein never had weapons of mass destruction?
3. What if it is true that Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden were never allies?
4. What if it is true that the overthrow of Saddam Hussein did nothing to enhance our national security?
5. What if our current policy in the Middle East leads to the overthrow of our client oil states in the region?
6. What if the American people really knew that more than 20,000 American troops have suffered serious casualties or died in the Iraq war, and 9% of our forces already have been made incapable of returning to battle?
7. What if it turns out there are many more guerrilla fighters in Iraq than our government admits?
8. What if there really have been 100,000 civilian Iraqi casualties, as some claim, and what is an acceptable price for “doing good?�
9. What if Rumsfeld is replaced for the wrong reasons, and things become worse under a Defense Secretary who demands more troops and an expansion of the war?
10. What if we discover that, when they do vote, the overwhelming majority of Iraqis support Islamic (Sharia) law over western secular law, and want our troops removed?
11. What if those who correctly warned of the disaster awaiting us in Iraq are never asked for their opinion of what should be done now?
12. What if the only solution for Iraq is to divide the country into three separate regions, recognizing the principle of self-determination while rejecting the artificial boundaries created in 1918 by non-Iraqis?
13. What if it turns out radical Muslims don’t hate us for our freedoms, but rather for our policies in the Middle East that directly affected Arabs and Muslims?
14. What if the invasion and occupation of Iraq actually distracted from pursuing and capturing Osama bin Laden?
15. What if we discover that democracy can’t be spread with force of arms?
16. What if democracy is deeply flawed, and instead we should be talking about liberty, property rights, free markets, the rule of law, localized government, weak centralized government, and self-determination promoted through persuasion, not force?
17. What if Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda actually welcomed our invasion and occupation of Arab/Muslim Iraq as proof of their accusations against us, and it served as a magnificent recruiting tool for them?
18. What if our policy greatly increased and prolonged our vulnerability to terrorists and guerilla attacks both at home and abroad?
19. What if the Pentagon, as reported by its Defense Science Board, actually recognized the dangers of our policy before the invasion, and their warnings were ignored or denied?
20. What if the argument that by fighting over there, we won’t have to fight here, is wrong, and the opposite is true?
21. What if we can never be safer by giving up some of our freedoms?
22. What if the principle of pre-emptive war is adopted by Russia, China, Israel, India, Pakistan, and others, “justified� by current U.S. policy?
23. What if pre-emptive war and pre-emptive guilt stem from the same flawed policy of authoritarianism, though we fail to recognize it?
24. What if Pakistan is not a trustworthy ally, and turns on us when conditions deteriorate?
25. What if plans are being laid to provoke Syria and/or Iran into actions that would be used to justify a military response and pre-emptive war against them?
26. What if our policy of democratization of the Middle East fails, and ends up fueling a Russian-Chinese alliance that we regret– an alliance not achieved even at the height of the Cold War?
27. What if the policy forbidding profiling at our borders and airports is deeply flawed?
28. What i
January 29th, 2005 at 11:10 pm
I love plagarized lists of things to try and make a point.
http://antiwar.com/paul/
January 29th, 2005 at 11:21 pm
Sorry, made a braino.
I meant to say “I love people who plagarize lists to try and make a point.”
For those who don’t want to click the link, it was taken from a speech given by a member of the House of Representatives. You can even watch a video of the speech being delivered.
January 30th, 2005 at 1:32 am
Yes, Ron Paul…as you buttholes can see, it got cut off at #28.
January 30th, 2005 at 1:45 am
At the end of the list it said: Hon. Ron Paul
Do you boys all send in messages from the old ladies home? It’s amazing. Everytime you smart asses come up with a new one it backfires. Boom Boom. Honest to God, you guys are a freakin’ hoot. I plagiarized the words Boom Boom from message 33. By the way. . .it is spelled plagiarized NOT plagarized. I would like to give credit for the words Boom Boom to “Anonymous”. It is his gift to literature.
January 30th, 2005 at 2:32 pm
If you were going to give due credit, why wouldn’t you just go ahead and give a link to the material? And, unrelated to any arguments on policy or honesty… Don’t you proofread your posts? There’s a little box right beside where you type talking about truncation… It doesn’t take a genius.
You might see yourself as being incredibly clever and wiping everybody’s collective nose into the ground. However, you’re really just making yourself look like an idiot. Ryan and Josh really killed off any credibility you had with the first few messages, and you’ve been either spewing propaganda or personal attacks. I don’t see too many hard facts from you, and you look like a spoiled little kid trying to force your opinions on others by repeating it and calling people stupid (and various names, like “buttholesâ€?, “A-holesâ€?, and “Conservative Hitler Youthâ€?) for not accepting it. Please, feel free to grow up.
Finally… Grammar/Spelling Nazis rarely (if ever) look intelligent. But I’ll bite. You seem to like “arguements” and “argueing” a lot. It is arguments and arguing. And “everytime” is two words. I’ll take the rest of your mistakes as typos.
January 30th, 2005 at 4:37 pm
January 30th, 2005 at 9:01 pm
This has got to be the most posts EVER on a thread on this site? Even abortion topics do not get this many posts.
I also think the “prolific” poster “BewickCory” has to have set the “ramdac record” for the fastest advancement of rank.
January 31st, 2005 at 11:07 am
Yes, but the “posters” read for the most part like this (barring Bewick taunting): Josh & Joey & the ever elusive “anonymous”. Bless their hearts. . .they seem like intelligent young men. Though, like most of the Right leaning, fall easy prey to Leftist taunts. I tip my hat to you all. . .it makes for an interesting “comments” section. No harm intended. My writings are my own “opinions”. . .though backed up by plenty of study, not NEWS stories. Once I write them, I will let the reader agree or fume about them. I don’t feel the need to go on and on trying to “justify” my comments. Let President Bush, whose effect on our culture is far greater than mine, show US the FACTS. That is where my fellow “comment posters” should place their inquisitiveness. I’m a writer of Opinion not a Journalist. If you read closely, you might see that I have issues with BOTH sides. I’m neither Right nor Left, just an individual. Though I admit the current pro-PNAC Administration has me worried. I played AOL Message Board on here, for that I am sorry. But, I will admit, it can be humorous. I am the ying, the yang, the dichotomy. Nothing more. . .nothing less.
Bewick Cory
Tennessee