Bush denounces the ads! Ha!
Last
week, the Kerry campaign made desperate calls to Bush to denounce ads that accused John Kerry of inflating his own Vietnam War record.
It is my opinion that the Kerry campaign thought Bush wouldn’t say anything
about it–wrong.
Today, Bush
denounced the ads saying "I think they are bad for the
system". Bush also went on to say that broadcast attacks by outside
groups have no place in the race for the Whitehouse.
Naturally, the democrats were still not happy. “The moment of truth came and went, and the president still couldn’t bring himself to do the right thing,” Democratic vice presidential candidate John Edwards said in a statement. “We need a president with the strength and integrity to say when something is wrong.”
“Too little, too late,” added party chairman Terry McAuliffe.
They’re pissed because Bush didn’t say something earlier. Apparently, Bush
"ignored" calls to condemn the ad while it was running, or so they
say.
To me, it doesn’t matter. Bush denounced them. There. Done. Is
it any surprise that the Kerry campaign is still not happy? I’m
getting sick and f*cking tired of this overly-political bullsh*t from the likes
of Kerry and his cronies.
It’s good that Bush spoke up about this–even though I think he didn’t have to.
It’s also good to see Kerry doing the same thing. on August 18th, Kerry
asked one of his allies to pull an anti-Bush advertisement.
Kerry asked the MoveOn PAC to pull a commercial assailing President Bush’s service in the Texas Air National Guard, even though it was produced in response to an ad attacking Kerry’s Vietnam War record.
“This should be a campaign of issues, not insults,” Kerry said in a written statement.
It’s good to see these men at least attempting to act
"presidential" in this race. Well, at least sometimes– then they’re not acting like 13 year old snot-nosed brats.
August 24th, 2004 at 5:07 am
“This should be a campaign of issues, not insults,” Kerry said in a written statement.
Isnt that what every campaign should be? Anyway I have read several articles on this from different news sources and I think it was fox news that said why are they so worried about what happened 35 yrs ago when they can be worrying about and telling us what they will do about our current problems with the economy, war on terrorism, healthcare, etc, etc. Yes it does play into the character of Kerry, which no I do not want someone as my president that will lie like that to make himself look good. Strong character and Integrity are the basis of a good leader.
August 24th, 2004 at 6:27 am
This episode proves liberal bias in the media, and why WE NEED FOX NEWS.
When Terry McCaufliffe made the inference Bush didn’t fulfill his duties in the National Guard, the media went into a FRENZY reporting it, trying to find out whether or not Bush was absent for a portion of his required time.
When these commercials began airing, and the Unfit for Command book released, the media IGNORED it.
It wasn’t until they could find something “supposedly” negative to report of Swift Boat for Truth’s spokesman that they even mentioned these ads, as well as the book.
And now, Kerry and his willing accomplices in the media are trying to say Bush is behind these ads.
The media are spending more time interrogating Bush about whether or not he had anything to do with the ads, when they ought to be interogating Kerry about whether or not the accusations are true!
So much for objectivity………
August 24th, 2004 at 8:20 am
There is no doubt that the major media outlets, besides Fox, didnt cover this untill they could bash the swift boat vets. This is also Fox is the highest rated news channel. They present news in a fair and balanced way. I am not saying that O’Reilly is fair, but the news on the channel is.
I am more concerned with Kerry’s voting record than his military record. I think the news media should do a better job of showing just how far Kerry is from mainstream america.
August 24th, 2004 at 9:38 pm
“I do not want someone as my president that will lie like that to make himself look good. Strong character and Integrity are the basis of a good leader.”
Every leader lies, sometimes they have to as a leader, other times they do to become a leader.
August 24th, 2004 at 11:06 pm
the end doesn’t justify the means.
August 25th, 2004 at 7:58 am
There are lies that protect people, because not everybody wants to know the whole truth.
But lying about being in Cambodia on Christmas Eve, for the purpose of making himself look good, and President Reagan look Bad. That is just unacceptable.
Kerry admits he “may have been mistaken about being in Cambodia on Christmas Eve”.
August 25th, 2004 at 5:51 pm
I’m about 50 pages into Unfit for Command……..very interesting, and highly recommended (you’ll have to get it through Amazon……no bookstores are selling it, despite having numerous anti-Bush books on display).
The Swift Boat Vets said in the book that the media is largely sympathetic to Kerry, and will make no serious effort to investigate their charges…..not that that was a shocker or anything when they were proven correct!
August 26th, 2004 at 8:07 am
I heard a lady on a talk show, saying that her local bookstore in New Jersey, wasnt going to sell the book because it contained lies. I would imagine that are poeple who think the Bible or the Quran contain lies, but you can buy those books at those book stores.
It is also #3 on the NY Bestsellers list, It seems to me unheard of for a bookstore not to sell a bestseller.
August 26th, 2004 at 11:03 am
As far as I can tell, I’m pretty much the only non-conservative that frequents this comments area, so I realize I’m swimming upstream here (as usual)
Nonetheless,here I go: Am I wrong for feeling that way too much focus is being placed on the minutiae of Bush/Kerry’s wartime activity?
There is a lack of documentation regarding some of the time Bush was supposed to be doing his National Guard duty. There is speculation that Kerry didn’t do some of the stuff that he’s credited with.
I find myself in agreement with those who feel that both Bush & Kerry’s Vietnam-era duties really should take a backseat to how they’re handling issues & policy now.
And IF their Vietnam service is actually as important as we’re being told it is, for me it’s a no-brainer. Bush got himself assigned out of harm’s way in the National Guard. Kerry volunteered 1) to go to Vietnam, and 2) specifically for combat duty.
As far as I’m concerned, that speaks volumes as to character, integrity, bravery, leadership, etc., etc., etc.,
August 26th, 2004 at 11:38 am
IT is not the wartime Kerry that concerns me. IT is his war protest time that does. Do you know that North Vietnam has a picture of John Kerry in a War Museum as a war hero for them. IT is a picture of him in front of the Senate, saying how bad his fellow soldiers were. Charges are being filed against Kerry, because supposedly he met with a North Vietnamese official while still a commissioned officer.
Criager, I dont want you to feel you are swimming upstream here. I would prefer to talk about just the issues, but we cant for 2 reasons.1) only God knows what Kerry really believes in politically (with his voting record) 2) Kerry was the one who brought his service to the forefront.
Again though Craiger, I enjoy your comments, I dont completely agree, but I enjoy reading your perspective on things. And my brother (ramdac) is starting to lean a little left too, so dont feel alone.
Gotcha bro.
August 26th, 2004 at 4:21 pm
Craiger…….for me, this episode is an example of liberal media bias, and why we need FOX News.
See above comments!
But if you read this book, you’ll learn a lot about Kerry’s character.
There is some stuff about Kerry in this book that infuriates me, and I strongly encourage you to read it.
I’ve been listening to these Swift Boat men on Limaugh and Hannity, and the anger in their voices toward Kerry is almost homicidal.
Kerry was a punk-ass with an attitude who told people in Vietnam that the only reason he was there was so he could be president one day.
And he whined and bitched when ordered into areas considered dangerous.
Never mind the fact that he’s a Massachussetts liberal whose views are just plain wrong!
By the way, Bush couldn’t have gone to Vietnam even if he’d wanted to……..his father was the head of the CIA at the time….could you imagine how bad it would have been had he been captured?
August 26th, 2004 at 4:23 pm
“Nonetheless,here I go: Am I wrong for feeling that way too much focus is being placed on the minutiae of Bush/Kerry’s wartime activity?”
Ask Kerry……….as far as his platform goes, he’s the one making such a big deal out of his FOUR MONTHS in Vietnam.
August 26th, 2004 at 10:48 pm
4 months is better than missing time spent apparently not serving in the national guard back in the safety of the united states.
August 27th, 2004 at 8:55 am
All media outlets, and all High ranking Democrats have investigated Bush’s National Guard Service. No one has found anything, and most are considering it a dead issue. It is funny how the democrats were the first to question someones service. This country has had a lot of men who were in the National Guard, I would imagine that the majority are proud of their service
August 27th, 2004 at 11:50 am
well, my personal view on the matter is that the democrats brought it up because their boy came home with a bunch of medals vs bush who no one really seemed to know where he was for a couple of months. they thought they had an edge, then kerry’s war record comes into dispute (which, i do agree with what you said earlier, joey - i’m not so much concerned with his vietnam war record as other things), and now we’ve got this mess.
as far as this: 1) only God knows what Kerry really believes in politically (with his voting record)
i don’t let that bother me much, personally, because people can and will change their minds on matters. the way i’ve understood it, kerry was originally with the masses who was convinced by misinformation that iraq had nuclear weapons and posed an imminent threat to the united states as well as the world. so he voted for the war.
well, couple of months down the line, there aren’t any nuclear weapons and we’re losing hundreds of soldiers,billions of dollars, and international alliances fighting a war based on something that didn’t even exist. even bush admitted he “miscalculated” the post-war iraq. i would have changed my mind, too. i’d have been pretty horrified knowing i had cast my lot with that.
now i’m not familiar with kerry’s entire voting history, and i’m not saying he has a perfect one by any means, but what i am saying is that sometimes someone or something will present the issue to you in a light that you haven’t seen before, and you are swayed to believe differently than you had before. this is especially the case if you’ve had a couple of decades between your actual vote and your “flip-flopped” stance as presidential candidate.
August 27th, 2004 at 2:52 pm
“i don’t let that bother me much, personally, because people can and will change their minds on matters. the way i’ve understood it, kerry was originally with the masses who was convinced by misinformation that iraq had nuclear weapons and posed an imminent threat to the united states as well as the world. so he voted for the war.”
So if Kerry looks at the evidence and voted for the war, he was simply misinformed, but if Bush saw the same evidence and acted on it, he has no business being president?
August 27th, 2004 at 3:40 pm
kerry was misinformed, bush was misinformed. on that front, they’re equal. but when bush acted, he did so without approval from the United Nations, and he did so before the weapons inspectors could even complete their rounds in iraq. then bush turns around and snubs nations that don’t decide to go cowboy with us (like france), harming vital alliances. the UN acknowledged that, yes, something might be going on in iraq, but we don’t know that for certain yet. let us wait for the weapons inspectors to issue their report. no, not good enough, we’re going to take them out NOW, like it or not, because they pose a threat to the entire world! well, we were wrong. now we’ve damaged our ties with several important countries, made asses of ourselves, and are currently fighting a war in a country that has little to nothing to do with the war on terror, not to mention the fact that we’ve lost close to 1000 soldiers in this little jaunt.
it’s that behavior that makes me think bush isn’t fit for a second term.
with that said, i don’t know that kerry will make a better president. i’m going to vote kerry, but i’m not necessarily proud of it. i do, however, feel that kerry will make a better president than bush.
…not that that’s saying much.
August 27th, 2004 at 5:25 pm
If I ever saw Kerry, you know what I’d tell him?
I don’t give a rat’s ass what France, Germany, Europe or the United Nations as a whole thinks of us.
Many in those countries have idiotic and ass-backward values systems anyway
And when they’re not lecturing us about the death penalty or abortion, they lecture us about our economic policies………you’d think some of them would be grateful for all we did on their behalf during and after WWII…….but they’re not.
Never mind the fact that France and Germany had some shady under the table deals with Saddam Hussein’s government.
This is the greatest country on Earth, our values are superior to that of any other nations, and it’s high time we kicked the U.N. out of this country…….and remind them not to let the door hit their sorry ass on their way out.
For me, going to Iraq wasn’t so much about finding weapons of mass destruction, as much as it was changing the culture of the Middle East.
Their kids are taught in school that we are the Great Satan.
Middle Eastern kids brag that one day they will crash a plane into the Sears Tower.
If we can change those aggressive tendencies among the Japanese after WWII, we can do it in the Middle East.
Iran and Syria………..you’re next.
Oh…….and as for Iraq having nothing to do with al Qaeda…….Mohammad Atta, who flew the first plane into the World Trade Center, met with an Iraqi security agent in the summer of 2001.
August 27th, 2004 at 6:07 pm
wow. okay, THAT is where we really differ. i believe countries have a right to believe what they want and to live how they please, even if it is that america is the great satan. forcably cramming the american way down their throats is, in my opinion, bullshit. so, seeing as how you’re one of those kind of people, i’ll just decline further comment and bid you good day, sir.
August 27th, 2004 at 8:28 pm
I’m against cramming the American way down anybody’s throat……….but when you’re dealing with a bunch of homicidal manicacs…..as anyone who takes the Koran seriously enough is…….you have to do it……..AGAIN……..as we did in Japan post-WWII.
As long as one culture doesn’t pose a threat to us, we should let them be.
But either we continue being victims of Islamic terrorism, or we go to their homelands and straighten them out……….AGAIN…….as we did in Japan post-WWII.
August 28th, 2004 at 8:11 am
First of all, not all people who read the Quran are homicidal maniacs. I do know that it talks about a “jihad” , holy war, but there are a lot of islamic people who dont believe the way terrorist do.
Mirvae, The main problem was that Saddam wasnt allowing weapon inspectors to inspect where they wanted to. The UN has even said that. The reason we acted quickly was for the simple fact that had Saddam attached us, with the information we had, then everyone would be blaming Bush for not acting on his information. I agree with chris about the UN, I could care less about the UN. They do not have our best interest at heart, and that is all I need to hear to not trust them.
However, I do feel that the other countries have a right to be angry with us, and the broken allainces should be considered. This doesnt included France and Russia, because they were profiting on Saddams lies; and therefore, I dont care what they think
I hope that we are not there to change these people ideas as chris suggested, It took a bold move in Japan to change their prespective. I for one would never like to see the likes of an atomic bomb in the world again. I think it is a great thing that Saddam is out of power. He murdered his own people with poison gas, and tortured many more. But changing the ideology of an entire region is a much to large of a task
August 28th, 2004 at 8:46 am
Let me clarify a few things………..
When I say people who read the Koran are homicidal maniacs…………I’m referring to the ones who take it the most SERIOUSLY.
Experts on the Middle East appeared on an episode of Nightline a few years ago, and support that conclusion…….it wasn’t heavily reported elsewhere because it might offend a few politically correct sensibilities.
Kids in the Middle East grow up with the belief that American is the Great Satan, which makes their desire and inclination to become terrorists so much easier.
They danced in the streets on 9-11.
I’ve seen video of Middle Eastern kids arguing over who will be the first to crash a plane into the Sears Tower………and I can assure you some of these kids are serious.
It won’t be long before they express interest in joining a terrorist training camp.
Without wiping out all of Islam, we need to wipe out the extreme elements that teach people to hate America…..justifiable self-defense, I think.
And when I say change their culture, I don’t mean change their belief systems, altogether.
Jordan is a great example of a Muslim nation that doesn’t preach hatred of America, and one that should be left alone.
But it’s like G.W. said after 9-11……..the days of any government sponsoring terrorists hostile to the U.S. has days that are numbered………
Iran and Syria……….you’re next.
August 28th, 2004 at 12:20 pm
you said that already.
We won’t mess with Iran for a while–I don’t think. They have nuclear weapons already (they were grandfathered into our non-expansion agreement we had with other countries because they already had weapons).
Besides, Iran is 100% extremist.
The problem with those Muslim nations is that they are devoid of any inter-diplomacy. The Quran isn’t exactly silent on the issue, but it doesn’t give them much guidance in this area either. They try to stay out of each other’s affairs for fear it would severely threaten their brotherhood as well as offend them greatly.
What I mean to say is that it is hard to reach out to other Muslim nations to try to help us with those few “problem countries” over there. They want to stay out of each other’s business too much. Notice who makes up all the peacekeeping forces–Mostly western European countries.
August 29th, 2004 at 12:37 am
Dems: Bush should denounce it!
Bush: *denounces*
Dems: he called our bluff! *whine*
October 22nd, 2004 at 3:32 pm
Chris,
Check your facts. W. Bush’s daddy was not director of the CIA during his little national guard stint(he was a congressman). You and other republicans are being fed this information and tricked into thinking differently about what W. Bush and is daddy did regarding the national guard. What really happened is as plain as the moon in the sky and almost as old. They used their privilidge and sacrificed their honor.
I am a republican and I’m not going to gloss over this issue. I’ve been to the Vietnam memorial and my older bother was drafted and served honorably. Bush scored the lowest possible score to enter his flight program and he jump over others on a waiting list. Come on… He was sworn in on the same day he applied. What about the others on the waiting list?
November 16th, 2004 at 1:42 pm
Just another reason why the dude didn’t win the elections.